SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

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Re: SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

Postby veronicat on Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:54 am

After TGR, I finished two more Burke books. I only have 2 to go for my re-reads but I did buy a copy of TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD and STARDUST by Joseph Kanon as follow ups. Yes, recover is the word when finishing TGR. Totally! Thank you Jim for your graciousness with your readers. Our comments must have you chuckling out loud. I noticed Clete's actions too. I felt that tossing the cigs out the window was an affirmation of life and a personal sacrifice on Clete's behalf.

I wish I had production money because I would love to see this series on HBO or Showtime or Starz. Truly. I was wondering Jim if somehow it is possible to suggest this to David Simon, creator of The Wire and Treme. I think Alafair has crossed paths with him professionally. He would be the one to do your series justice! Then he would hire Pelecanos, Price and Lehane to co-write the script! I have such lofty visions. lol.
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Re: SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

Postby veronicat on Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:02 am

PS James Lee Burke IS the best American author! Hands down! I agree.
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Re: SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

Postby GCastleman on Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:08 pm

The book was one of JB's best! The Louisiana version of crossing the River Styx was fantastic. One of the things I like best about JB's Robicheaux novels is that every page paints a vivid picture of some aspect of Louisiana. Sadly, the Louisiana that I came to know starting a little over 30 years ago no longer exists, and throughout the series the decline has been subtly chronicled.

Thank you Mr. Burke for a wonderful series. I have eagerly awaited the publication of each, and treasure all of them.
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Re: SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

Postby GCastleman on Sun Jul 25, 2010 5:09 pm

For those who were wondering how old Dave is in TGR, there is a statement near the beginning about starting his eighth decade, making him 70 or so.
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Re: SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

Postby jamesleeburke on Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:36 pm

Thanks, Mr. Castleman and Veronica.

Best,

Jim
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Re: SPOILERS!! THE GLASS RAINBOW ending and plot discussed here

Postby penelope on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:52 pm

GCastleman wrote:For those who were wondering how old Dave is in TGR, there is a statement near the beginning about starting his eighth decade, making him 70 or so.


"Lady Pamala of the Board & Webmaster Extraodinaire" answered the question in this or one of the other forums just a day or two ago. She says Dave is the same age as Jim - 73.

But you are correct, Dave's age is alluded to early in the book.

Best,

Penny
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Postby theloneangler on Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:35 am

I'm with Clete. I can't let the Bobbsey Twins go, they are forever. And will look for the pinkness of another dawn.....
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Postby Mors Profundis on Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:43 am

This is one of the very best of the series.

If Dave and Clete are gone, they went down fighting. That's a very decent way for them to exit. It has a certain dignity. If they are indeed 'gwine to dat big ribberboat in de sky', I'm sure they will be rewarded in the afterlife-maybe Clete will become the Paraclete?-and find the peace that eluded them in this life.

Or wake up in the hospital and start it all over again? Perhaps they'll dream and we'll get some flash backs to the early days of the Dynamic Duo in the Big Easy?

No matter, Bravo! and well done! Thank you, Mr. Burke!
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Postby Paulapalooza on Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:01 am

I have only posted rarely and intermittently on this site, but finishing THE GLASS RAINBOW makes one desire like-minded company and the closeness of community.

It feels peculiar to think of fictional characters as friends, but I do believe there is a power in fiction and the stories we tell ourselves as a culture, and great characters reflect ourselves in mirrors both light and dark. That said, Dave and Clete have certainly endeared themselves to me over the years. I have read each of the eighteen novels which detail their ongoing story and, while I certainly desire to see that story continue, I also respect that every artist has the right and the obligation to be true to his or her vision, and the time may be right for Dave and Clete to move on.

So, if this was the end of the line (and even if it wasn't), thanks for the sheer commitment to these characters over the years and, by association, those readers who keep coming back. It's been a rare privilege to ridealong with the Bobbsey Twins from Homicide.
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Postby Connie Ciampanelli on Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:09 am

Oh, my.

Like many of you here, I dragged my feet reading The Glass Rainbow, not wanting to rush to its conclusion. Last night I reached that end. I believed, and still do, that the epilogue to The Tin Roof Blowdown is the finest writing ever by anyone, anywhere, any time, on any subject. But The Glass Rainbow is an awesome book, too, in every respect, and I found myself once again frequently stopping to savor every memorable passage. It is a spiritual exercise.

And the passage that most touched my heart was the opening of Chapter 9, p. 138:

I sometimes subscribe to the belief that all historical events occur simultaneously, like a dream inside the mind of God. Perhaps it's ony man who views time sequentially and tries to impose a solar calendar upon it. What if other people, both dead and unborn, are living out their lives in the same space we occupy,without our knowledge or consent?

Who other than James Lee Burke writes like this? No one.

I read the posts on this forum almost daily and could not stop myself from going through this thread. It did not 'spoil' my reading of the book. For me, whodunit takes a back seat, for it's all about the journey, the characters' and ours. We care about the people who inhabit JLB's fictional world, their flaws and frailties and motivations, their strength of character and loyalties and truths and loves. We are encouraged to reflect on our similarities and differences with them and among ourselves, to ponder our human connections, the threads that link us and what keeps us separated.

There is so much in The Glass Rainbow: Dave's agonies over Alafair, Dave's and Clete's unbreakable bonds of love and friendship, Dave and Helen's subtle understanding of each other, Molly's quiet strength and understanding of the demons that haunt Dave, the lyrical and awful (i.e., full of awe) descriptions of New Iberia, Bayou Teche, the homes, the towns and the slums, the weather and vegetation, the complexity of human nature, the perniciousness of evil, the vulnerability of the innocent...

The paddle boat motif is brilliant. Dave's own foreboding of his own death? Perhaps. It is also a connection to Dave's constant ruminations, here and in earlier work, of the Confederacy and the culture of the South, particularly to In the Electric Mist With the Confederate Dead. What is old Southern culture's impact on the present? How are relations between races unchanged and how different? Did Dave have a near death experience in In the Electric Mist? Is it the same in The Glass Rainbow, or did the steamship captain succeed in calling Dave (and Clete?) to the other side? Is Clete on the boat to join Dave or to bring him back? After all, he earlier did tell Dave he wouldn't let him go, would "kick [Dave's] ass" if he died. So much is in here about Tripod and Snuggs. They, old as they are, are still alive. Are they a symbol of hope,the Bobbsey Twins of the animal world, a mirror image of Dave and Cletus?

Yes the ending is ambiguous, the wounds not necessarily fatal, but should it be true that Dave and Clete are gone, it is a fitting conclusion. We know all life ends, and, unfairly, sometimes too soon. The young victims are robbed of the wonders and joys of the life that should lie before them. We would miss Dave and Clete, but they have lived full lives. But that is for their creator to decide, n'est ce pas?

If this is in fact the end of the road for the Bobbsey Twins of Homicide, we do have eighteen books that we can devour at will. I do hope, though, that Dave and Clete's adventures are not yet over. I, for one, am not ready to let them go.

Those who post on this forum care deeply about the world that you've created, Jim, and they write with great wit and passion and intelligence. But they are but a speck in the cosmos of the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of your readers. I sometimes wonder what you feel, what you think, when what you do, what pours from your mind onto the page, affects so many so deeply. Are you awed? Overwhelmed? What a gift you have.

We are very fortunate that you give so generously of your time and your thoughts to this forum.

You are, indeed, the best.
The best writer.
And a humble and honorable man.

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